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the item actually came back to me at the previous rollover (the 4/2 rollover), but hosr forgot to tell me until like 11 this morning haha. so I sent it back to nautie during the previous phase, and it reached nautie at this rollover (4/3)
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Cardcaptor Sakura Mafia [Day Four]
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Mr. Gerbear
ezzelin
angel★
Rasei
AdiosBromigo
She-Ra
Aeiou
plotstickers
katagi
high seraph
chinomi
Five
Tiki The Troll
Kiyoko
* Baccano Girl Jeanne *
Sammiya
Mr. Alice
Luxaria
Ninfia
23 posters
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842 Re: Cardcaptor Sakura Mafia [Day Four] Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:38 pm
nautilus
looks at lulu's role claim
lays down on ground one mystery is solved and another one opens up
@Aeiou - I can think of one role that isn't ambiguously scummy but definitely scummy depending on how it's used (or ... one variety of role?) It really depends on what exact kind of role she is tbh and if it's one type, then I think she's probably town, but if it's the other then the opportunity for such a role to be advantageous to maf hasn't really come to light so
tl;dr idk
Theoretically Tiki did claim a disabling role before he went down and flipped mafia, and no one's claimed the second stun on N2, so there's that at least.
lays down on ground one mystery is solved and another one opens up
@Aeiou - I can think of one role that isn't ambiguously scummy but definitely scummy depending on how it's used (or ... one variety of role?) It really depends on what exact kind of role she is tbh and if it's one type, then I think she's probably town, but if it's the other then the opportunity for such a role to be advantageous to maf hasn't really come to light so
tl;dr idk
lulu wrote:but i find it unlikely for mafia to not have any disables?
Theoretically Tiki did claim a disabling role before he went down and flipped mafia, and no one's claimed the second stun on N2, so there's that at least.
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843 Re: Cardcaptor Sakura Mafia [Day Four] Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:40 pm
Luxaria
☆☆katagi wrote:the item actually came back to me at the previous rollover (the 4/2 rollover), but hosr forgot to tell me until like 11 this morning haha. so I sent it back to nautie during the previous phase, and it reached nautie at this rollover (4/3)
Oh jk, I just remembered you said earlier today you knew where the item was.
WHOOPS.
I blame being super preoccupied and distracted all day. =w=
Anyway, that makes a lot more sense, then. I'm glad it finally got to Mitsu ;w;
844 Re: Cardcaptor Sakura Mafia [Day Four] Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:41 pm
Aeiou
That lulu claim omg
E: what even was my first post lmao
E: what even was my first post lmao
845 Re: Cardcaptor Sakura Mafia [Day Four] Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:43 pm
ezzelin
Why would the mafia have an item use delayer when they have - so far the only apparent - itemsmith? My role literally only makes sense for town.Cure wrote:I'm willing to believe katagi is probably town since mitsu ACTUALLY got the item. I'm not sure about ezz though.
That's literally it. I don't redirect, I just move it somewhere safe for a while.Luxaria wrote:ezzelin's role only borrowing an item and giving it back seems strange to me. Especially since apparently she cannot redirect the target, since she had no idea where it went? So then it was just... "let me delay this item gift for a bit, yo."
Also @Cure, I figured it out when you said "Both" to Kiyo's question. I went like... staaare... OH. OHHHH.
846 Re: Cardcaptor Sakura Mafia [Day Four] Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:46 pm
nautilus
- Summary of Game Claims:
- ★ The Luxaria
- Targeted by Rasei N2, cannot act for 48 hours
- Has not acted yet this game or is incapable of acting
★ The Mr. Alice- Is not Jailer #1, Jailer #2, Stunner, "Wounder"
- i actually didn't do anything on n0, nor did i attempt to :S
★The Sammiya- My role ability is that if I get targeted for a NK or a vig kill my death is delayed for a phase, because while I got hurt I flew away.
★ The Cure- Claimed town dedicated jailer
★ The Jeanne- Kiyoko claims that Jeanne did not send in stuns/jails or NK on n0
- Softclaimed "The Little" on D1
★ The Nautilus- Not!!! Neutral!!!
- Killed Lucas!!!!!!!!!
- Is a vig!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
★The Kiyoko- "Jeanne wasn't any of the stuns/jails, and also did not send the NK."
- Redirect, redirected Jeanne to themselves n0, flipped town; can redirect NK
- Claims that The Dash, The Fly are in this game
- Apparently received a PM at rollover, which indicates that she cannot act n1
- Claimed to have received notification that someone (Rasei?) acted on her
★The Tiki the Troll- Is not "Wounder", unless Wounder can self-target
- Claimed stun on Adibros N2, every other night
- Killproof, used up, confirmed by rollover
- Well...because the stun part of my role was actually told to me outside of the role PM, a last minute adjustment Ninfia made, concerned over balance (which is the other thing I have goin' against me now, heh).
- Didn't actually stun Plotstickers n0, apparently, flipped mafia
★ The Five- Claims that The Mirror, The Twin, The Return are in this game
- Claimed stun on plotstickers N0, Sammiya N2
- The role that I have now is not the first role I was given. I was initially given a role that was... Well, each night I could target a player and make them only able to talk in quotes from the last day phase for the next day. I had no idea what to do with it, because as town I would not want to restrict anybody talking or cut down on speculation in any way. So I... asked the host why I would use this, given the above, and I was offered a new role? I made it clear I didn't want to skew the balance of the game or anything, she insisted it was fine, so I went ahead and took the offer. Now... I am a dedicated stunner, as I have said.
- Claims The Loop is not in this game
★The Takumi (Chinomi)- Claimed psuedo-investigative or investigative ability, apparently investigated Lucas N0 and got an identical role as her own, flipped town
★The High Seraph- ??? I don't learn alignments, and I do learn roles but not... for investigation purposes...... My role is kind of ambiguous tbh and my first reaction was to scream at the host for giving me an investigation role since I'm a terrible detective bUT she clarified that that was not........ exactly what my role does. I don't wanna go super in-depht with this because I hope this misunderstanding will get resolved
- I acted on Plot (not responsible for the stun tho) and, therefore, I know what her role ability is. I don't know her card or her alignment, but making the assumptions isn't that hard. I'm very positive that she is town.
- Claimed to have acted on Plot n0 and received her role, which is apparently town
- Flipped mafia, likely mafia role cop due to chi's claims
★ The Katagi- Claimed a role which can copy items: claimed to have copied the item that killed Plot (in the process creating intermission #2) and tried to pass it to nautilus, but it was intercepted by ezzelin
- Item passing is a rollover action, apparently?
- Now vanilla; can apparently act only once in the game
★The Plotstickers- Claimed some kind of flavour-based alignment cop role, did not get result N0 due to stun, flipped town
★ The She-Ra- I'm going to add in here that I have a very similar role to what tiki is claiming, and even Hayley told me that my abilities "look scummy" and would probs be most helpful for a maf player so there's no way we'd BOTH be town imo.
★ The Aeiou- Claims The Change is in this game
- Claimed that they did not act N0
★ The Lulu- Claimed jail on Five n3, Mr. Alice n0, not dedicated jailer though
★ The Rasei- Claims The Create is in this game
- Claimed to have acted on Kiyoko n0
- Kiyoko believes she is neutral, claims her ability is that she holds powers hostage for 48 hours until the target does something creative, corroborated by Lux
★ The Angelstar- Claims lie detector
- Cannot check alignments
- ヾangel★★★★★彡◦°˚☆ wrote:N0:
I ask: "Is it true that 1+1=3?"
Answer: "No, It does not."
N2: I first submitted "I stunned Plot.” - Five right when rollover happened in the event of another phase end, but I thought that we would pretty much get Five's alignment for sure when Tiki died, so it wasn't worth it to look into that. Instead, I chose a different line of suspicion, and submitted "On N0, I redirected Jeanne to herself.’ - Kiyo
Answer: "These words are true." - Can only fact-check from the previous day phase and current night phase
★ The Ezzelin- Claims that the Dash likely exists in this game, though she is not the card herself
- Claims that items are used up at rollover, but can be spawned at any point in the phase
- Claims to be able to "borrow items", removing them from being accessed by players (?) but is able to return them later
- Intercepted the item katagi created
★ The Mr. Gerbear- Claims The Libra is in the game
- Role has yet to appear in-game yet, claims he is essentially vanilla
- Targeted by Rasei N3
Roles That Exist That Haven't Been Claimed Explicitly And Obviously By a Player Yet
Silencer/"Wounder"
Jailer #1
Jailer #2
Phase ender
"Item" generating role
Cards In The Game
* = confirmed due to flavour or flips as existing in the game- The Arrow - nautilus*
- The Change (according to Aeiou)
- The Flower - high seraph*
- The Dash - Tiki*
- The Create (according to Rasei), is probably Rasei tbh
- The Fly - Sammiya*
- The Mirror - chinomi*
- The Twin - katagi
- The Return (according to Five)
- The Sweet - plotstickers*
- The Firey - Cure
- The Little - Jeanne
- The Float - Kiyoko*
- The Libra - Angel
Rollovers
Night 0
An attempt has been made on Nautilus, but it Failed! - ?
Plotstickers has been stunned - claimed by Five
Cure has been jailed - Cure
Mr Alice has been jailed - lulu
Tiki the Troll has been Wounded, he cannot vote or speak this phase - ?
Intermission 1
lucas was shot i (nautilus) did it
Intermission 2
An item is now in play. - ?
Day 1
Plotstickers was hit with an Item! She was The Sweet. She was Town. - ?
Night 1
[Premature phase end] - ?
Chinomi has been killed! They were The Mirror. They were Town. - ?
Day 2
An attempt to lynch Tiki the Troll has been made, but he ran away. - Tiki's own ability
Intermission 3
An item is now in play. - claimed by katagi
Night 2
Nautilus has been jailed! - Cure
AdiosBromigo has been stunned! - claimed by Tiki
Sammiya has been stunned! - Claimed by Five
An Item has been moved. Where could it have gone? Hopefully you find it soon. - Claimed by ezzelin
Kiyoko has been killed! She was The Float. She was Town. - ?
Sammiya has been killed! She was The Fly. She was Town. - ?
Day 3
tiki has died
Night 3
An attempt was made on Cure, but it failed! - ?
Five has been Jailed. - claimed by lulu
Cure has been Jailed. - claimed by cure - Targeted by Rasei N2, cannot act for 48 hours
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847 Re: Cardcaptor Sakura Mafia [Day Four] Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:47 pm
Rasei
vote:No Lynch
Could you pretty please leave Gerbear alive for this phase?
Could you pretty please leave Gerbear alive for this phase?
848 Re: Cardcaptor Sakura Mafia [Day Four] Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:48 pm
Mr. Gerbear
@Ezz are you The Move
YES PLEASE LEAVE ME ALIVE I'm kinda excited to make my Wonderful Project of Art for Rasei
YES PLEASE LEAVE ME ALIVE I'm kinda excited to make my Wonderful Project of Art for Rasei
849 Re: Cardcaptor Sakura Mafia [Day Four] Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:51 pm
Luxaria
nautilus wrote:looks at lulu's role claim
lays down on ground one mystery is solved and another one opens up
+1
Didn't Tiki claim the stun on Adibro at some point? Though he was mafia so who knows what that means.
P.S. if you want you can update that the disable on me dissipated, I guess. Host confirmed. I hope the story gets shared post-game. It is cute. Wait, no, it's embarrassing as hell, please do not show. WHATEVER YOU DO. DO NOT SHOW.
@ Aeiou
I just reread it and I'm not sure. Something about the wording just felt unlike your usual posts, but I could be imagining things. I also said I gut read Sammiya as being a bit off in the same breath, so take it as you will. Not a FoS so much as just... trying to think of anything relevant since our pool of players to interrogate has been narrowed a bit via claims / actions.
@ ezz
aah I see. hmm....
This role distribution (items, stuns/jails) feels really, really weird the more we learn.
850 Re: Cardcaptor Sakura Mafia [Day Four] Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:52 pm
nautilus
Okay, so, with lulu's claim we have apparently the following:
Town dedicated every-night stunner - Five
Town dedicated every-night jailer - Cure
A part time kind of jailer? - lulu
A second stunner which showed up on N2 and was claimed by Tiki
@Lux - Well, the thing is is that no one else cc'd the claim made by Tiki about the stun on Adibros, and I feel like if it was a town stun someone would have? So it was likely a mafia stun unless tiki was fragod no.
I agree with the really weird power distribution in this game, though, which is why I'm a bit hrm at the recent revelations with lulu. Raie, Five, what do you think?
Also it's Day 4 and our friend the item generator hasn't acted yet (again), so either they have a cooldown about as terrible as the ◙◙◙◙◙◙◙◙◙◙◙◙◙◙◙◙◙ on my ability, or they're one-shot. Or they were Tiki. Or they were someone that was Rasei'd.
I feel like the item roles are kind of weird, but I'm more inclined to consider katagi's claim as legitimate over ezz's (though rollover flavour supports ezz's claim) because it seems like ezz's ability is just... delaying the inevitable and it seems worthless if the item has already been used or the item generator is dead, while it seems that katagi can act even if the item has already been used?
Town dedicated every-night stunner - Five
Town dedicated every-night jailer - Cure
A part time kind of jailer? - lulu
A second stunner which showed up on N2 and was claimed by Tiki
@Lux - Well, the thing is is that no one else cc'd the claim made by Tiki about the stun on Adibros, and I feel like if it was a town stun someone would have? So it was likely a mafia stun unless tiki was fragod no.
I agree with the really weird power distribution in this game, though, which is why I'm a bit hrm at the recent revelations with lulu. Raie, Five, what do you think?
Also it's Day 4 and our friend the item generator hasn't acted yet (again), so either they have a cooldown about as terrible as the ◙◙◙◙◙◙◙◙◙◙◙◙◙◙◙◙◙ on my ability, or they're one-shot. Or they were Tiki. Or they were someone that was Rasei'd.
I feel like the item roles are kind of weird, but I'm more inclined to consider katagi's claim as legitimate over ezz's (though rollover flavour supports ezz's claim) because it seems like ezz's ability is just... delaying the inevitable and it seems worthless if the item has already been used or the item generator is dead, while it seems that katagi can act even if the item has already been used?
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851 Re: Cardcaptor Sakura Mafia [Day Four] Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:56 pm
Luxaria
@ Mitsu
Oh I misread. I thought you meant no one at all claimed the stun on N2, and I was like, "But Tiki did, though." Sorry!
Oh I misread. I thought you meant no one at all claimed the stun on N2, and I was like, "But Tiki did, though." Sorry!
852 Re: Cardcaptor Sakura Mafia [Day Four] Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:58 pm
lulu
someone pet me i still have a million pages to read im gonna cry
854 Re: Cardcaptor Sakura Mafia [Day Four] Sun Apr 03, 2016 9:00 pm
Mr. Alice
@lulu: mmm i understand the logic of your vote me! but i'm also not sure what i can do to prove that i didn't send that nk on n0 besides saying so D: i actually didn't do anything on n0, nor did i attempt to :S
855 Re: Cardcaptor Sakura Mafia [Day Four] Sun Apr 03, 2016 9:01 pm
Aeiou
wait lulu why did you jail Five??
e:
WAIt
wait a fucking second
e:
WAIt
wait a fucking second
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