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121 Re: Vanilla! It's good for you! - [MAFIA WIN] on Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:21 pm

Vanilla Tally


  • Rasei: 2
  • Alcasync: 1
  • AliceofOz 1
  • Sammiya 2



Alcasync vs. Rasei Sammiya
AliceofOz vs. Alcasync
Rasei vs. AliceofOz Sammiya
Luxaria vs. Sammiya Rasei
Sammiya vs. Rasei



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122 Re: Vanilla! It's good for you! - [MAFIA WIN] on Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:22 pm

Vote:AliceofOz


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123 Re: Vanilla! It's good for you! - [MAFIA WIN] on Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:24 pm

Oh nvm


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124 Re: Vanilla! It's good for you! - [MAFIA WIN] on Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:26 pm

Honestly the timing of Luxaria's post suspecting me and Alice's vote makes me really think they're the mafia pair.


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125 Re: Vanilla! It's good for you! - [MAFIA WIN] on Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:28 pm

I am going to vote for Sammiya or Rasei.

The easiest thing to do would be to eliminate one of either alcasync/Rasei or alcasync/Sammiya as pairings.

alcasync/Sammiya:
Alcasync/Sammiya
- Alcasync voted drandahl and then Sammiya for activity. Later votes for drandahl to save herself.
- Sammiya voted drandahl for activity and never swapped off.
- Alcasync suggests Cthuluhoop's death might either be mafia trying to frame Sammiya, or mafia protecting Sammiya in the event she's mafia.
- Alcasync agrees a less stronger player dying indicates a stronger one of being mafia, including herself and Sammiya.
- Disagrees with Sammiya finding tie votes anti-town.
- Acasync asked Sammiya why she did an activity vote on drandahl after alcasync already did one on him.
- Alcasync notes that Sammiya is quiet.
- Sammiya thinks Luxaria or Alcasync are among the mafia.
- Thinks one mafia voted for alcasync, the other for drandahl.
- Alcasync says Sammiya/Rasei is plausible.
- Alcasync says Sammiya/Alice is very plausible.
- Alcasync finds Luxaria/Sammiya and Sammiya/Alcasync unlikely.
- Alcasync most willing to vote for Sammiya or Alice.
- Alcasync points out it hurts for mafia to kill Cthulu if Sammiya is town.
- Sammiya makes no further mention of Alcasync.

alcasync/Rasei:
Alcasync/Rasei
- Rasei voted for drandahl when Alcasync had 4 votes on her.
- Alcasync says Rasei stands out since she was the first to vote.
- Alcasync points out that Rasei was the first to swing the lynch back to drandahl (Voted him over Sammiya).
- Alcasync states she can't read Rasei, but she's hesitant to be suspicious of her.
- Alcasync doesn't understand Rasei's unvote on Cthuluhoop following his post.
- Alcasync says mafia would like to vote early, thus the suspicion on Rasei--not the first vote. Wonders why Rasei voted as she did.
- Alcasync points out Sammiya/Rasei is a Cthulu pairing since they both voted Drandahl.
- Rasei didn't want alcasync as the person with the most votes because she's a talkative theorist (along with Luxaria and Cthuluhoop).
- Rasei was surprised alcasync (and Luxaria) were alive after N0.
- Rasei thinks a usual theorist (which includes alcasync) might be mafia.
- Alcasync admits Alcasync/Rasei is plausible to others.
- Alcasync finds Rasei/Sammiya plausible.
- Alcasync finds Luxaria/Rasei and Rasei/AliceofOz unlikely.
- Alcasync is more comfortable voting for Sammiya or Alice and not Rasei, since she appears in a lower number of pairings (excluding the one with herself).
- Alcasync wants to know why others find Rasei/AliceofOz unlikely.
- Alcasync does not want to vote for Rasei.

Sammiya/alca:
NK on Blaire and Cthulu.
NK on Blaire leaves both of them up along with Luxaria and Cthulu.
Can point to one of those two (Lux/Cth) being suspicious.
Alca has agreed with it, but doesn't like pursuing it and defends against it.
Sammiya has found it agreeable and uses that and other reasons to go after Lux.
NK on Cthulu leaves Lux up, when she's being painted as suspicious by both.
NK on Cthulu has been used by both to suggest Sammiya is being framed.
If NK had been on Lux and then Cthulu, it implicates themselves. Leaving Lux up lets alca look safer, and Sammiya by proxy.
Both seem mildly suspicious of one another, but Sammiya is less willing to vote for alca it seems.

Rasei/alca:
NK on Blaire and Cthulu
NK on Blaire leaves alca up against Luxaria, Cthulu, and Sammiya.
Can point to one of those three being suspicious.
Rasei does this. Votes Lux.
Alca agrees with it, but doesn't like pursuing it and defends against it.
Rasei ultimately never votes for Sammiya, and saves Alca by proxy.
NK on Cthulu leaves Lux and Sammiya up. Lux has been painted as suspicious.
NK has been used to suggest Sammiya is being framed.
By alca's admission, Cthulu being left up could lead to Sammiya, a town, being lynched. But that's weird because Cthulu is only pushing it based off of the veteran theory, which alca keeps refuting. Why would this work, in theory, if this means that alca knows Lux, Sammiya, and Cthulu are all veterans?
If NK had been on any of the other three vets, this is less conclusive than if Sammiya/alca were mafia.


Trying to read these updates, goddamnit this is going to be such a nail-biter phase.


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126 Re: Vanilla! It's good for you! - [MAFIA WIN] on Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:35 pm

Lux wrote:So there's a case for them being mafia. Now for the main point to consider: If you're Alice and Rasei, do you leave alcasync, Luxaria, Cthuluhoop, and Sammiya all up against you?

HELL NO! I'm not crazy! It would be better to kill either Alcasync or Luxaria or Kiyoko the N0, then cause Sammiya or Cthuluhoop or some other innocent talkative town to be killed, then kill one of the two left from N0 on N1.

Lux wrote:
Your entire plan hedges on getting town to lynch one of those players. The players that have a strong track record of ferreting out mafia, no less. It could be a master stroke of a plan and both of them have engineered this whole thing and avoiding implicating themselves, in which case, well-done. You two are doing really well.

... I'm not this smart. I could never think of engineering this plan. I sort of tried this route before, and that didn't go that well. Got lynch twice in that game. I would rather do it nice and simple and kill off the smart people.

I agree with Alpaca.


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127 Re: Vanilla! It's good for you! - [MAFIA WIN] on Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:37 pm

Not gonna vote for you, Rasei, but I'm curious on why you suspect me so much?


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128 Re: Vanilla! It's good for you! - [MAFIA WIN] on Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:43 pm

Mostly I have eliminated Alpaca in my mind, and she had a good point with
alcasync wrote:Honestly the timing of Luxaria's post suspecting me and Alice's vote makes me really think they're the mafia pair.

I mean I could go with one of my other guess and vote Sammy... but she doesn't feel as slimy this time around. At this point I'm almost postive that pairings are:

AliceofOz/Lux or AliceofOz/Sammy... I guess Sammy/Lux too.


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129 Re: Vanilla! It's good for you! - [MAFIA WIN] on Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:43 pm

Alcasync, if you were to lynch one person between your original two candidates of Alice and Sammiya, which would it be?

Edit: Sammiya being quiet in all of this concerns me the most.


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130 Re: Vanilla! It's good for you! - [MAFIA WIN] on Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:46 pm

(BTW, with this vote coming down to the wire, I may not get the rollover out at exactly 6 PST tonight, as I'll want to be sure I have the vote right, and have no wrong information in the rollover, especially with how pivotal this is. So, at 6:00 PST there might be a brief intermission (ooh, the suspense!), and any votes cast with a time stamp at or after that time won't be counted.)


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131 Re: Vanilla! It's good for you! - [MAFIA WIN] on Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:48 pm

alcasync/Rasei
alcasync/Alice
alcasync/Sammiya
Sammiya/Rasei
Sammiya/Alice
Alice/Rasei

alcasync/Rasei
alcasync/Sammiya
Sammiya/Rasei
Sammiya/Alice
Alice/Rasei probably

alcasnyc/Rasei
alcasync/Sammiya
Sammiya/Rasei
Sammiya/Alice

Alice votes for Alca. Sammiya most suspected Lux, I think. Alcasync voted for Rasei, but wanted to vote for Sammiya or Alice. Rasei votes for Alice.

I suspect Alice the least. I may be blindsided.
Alcasync is equal parts suspicious and town, possibly more town. I think Alca/Sammiya are a strong possibility. Sammiya is a strong possibility with everyone, honestly.

Vote: Sammiya off of math and gut. Frantically re-reading everything. I want a vote in now to see if anything changes.


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132 Re: Vanilla! It's good for you! - [MAFIA WIN] on Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:49 pm

She been so quiet that I might have to switch to her...


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133 Re: Vanilla! It's good for you! - [MAFIA WIN] on Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:53 pm

I know I am completely correct that at least one of Rasei or Sammiya are mafia.

Sammiya has been quiet for the last few hours, which makes it difficult to get a feel for her.

Rasei has posted a long post... which it's weird because it felt equal parts useful, equal parts not, but for once I didn't feel like she was being inconsistent. This is uncharacteristic of Rasei (no offense meant ;w;), which may suggest someone else was instructing her. If so, who?

I don't think it would be Alice.

It would be Sammiya or alcasync.

Both of them expressed hesitance to vote for Rasei. Alcasync repeatedly wrote Rasei out of the equation.

Alcasync did vote for Rasei when her logic was questioned.

If Alcasync truly thought Rasei was town, why would she bend and even toss a vote up for Rasei, instead of calling it down on myself or Alice, since she thinks we're so clearly a pairing? If my reasoning is poking holes in her logic, and she meanwhile suspects me... then I'm trying to understand why she would vote Rasei as town.

I feel like Sammiya and Alcasync might be the mafia. But I can't rule out that it might be Rasei/Alcasync.

Edit: That said, nothing doesn't suggest Sammiya/Rasei, either, but oh god I need so much more time to analyze Rasei's post.


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134 Re: Vanilla! It's good for you! - [MAFIA WIN] on Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:55 pm

Luxaria wrote:

Rasei has posted a long post... which it's weird because it felt equal parts useful, equal parts not, but for once I didn't feel like she was being inconsistent. This is uncharacteristic of Rasei (no offense meant ;w;), which may suggest someone else was instructing her. If so, who?


... I feel insulted... I done big post before... It just been awhile.


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135 Re: Vanilla! It's good for you! - [MAFIA WIN] on Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:56 pm

I'm sorry, I'm sorry ;w; I really liked the post, I didn't mean anything about it! I am just panicking because this is so hard and there's five minutes and Sammiya isn't saying anything and I can't see mafia not getting a vote in before phase end, which means I think she's going to sneak it in with her mafia partner last minute*, making a tie if there is one, or swinging it when votes are spread, and the votes are spread, and I don't know anymore.

* edit: if she's mafia. Is she? Why wouldn't mafia both vote. Did they already both vote? Who is it.


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